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Re: Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles
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Hello, Just wanted to let you know that the Petition post was removed by the site. Not sure how many members were blocked or not, but figured since you went to the trouble of creating a blog so members could share their feelings/opinions on this "petition" then I figured you'd want to know that the petition was removed. I hope one or more members can let the blogger who was the center or target of the petition know it is gone/removed and perhaps she'll choose to blog here again. I believe she is missed by a lot of members/fans of hers. Thank you & Happy Sun, Ana6 Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Thanks. That was thoughtful of you to tell me. I'm not surprised that the post is gone in light of subsequent events. I'd be surprised if she ever makes a return under that username. You're welcome. I felt very strongly about this issue and knew that you and other great members like Rick were blogging, posting and being blocked. I truly hope one day the Lady might choose to come back to the site again. I've spent a lot of time either getting members handles back after being removed unfairly or trying to keep great members from leaving. This site is only as strong as our member base is. I will hope as you said, the Lady might not use the same name but might return one day and her personality will shine through whatever unique handle name she chooses. Have a Great week , Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart 
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Hello Kzoopair, You're welcome. I felt very strongly about this issue and knew that you and other great members like Rick were blogging, posting and being blocked. I truly hope one day the Lady might choose to come back to the site again. I've spent a lot of time either getting members handles back after being removed unfairly or trying to keep great members from leaving. This site is only as strong as our member base is. I will hope as you said, the Lady might not use the same name but might return one day and her personality will shine through whatever unique handle name she chooses. Have a Great week , Ana6 I'd like to see her back here too. Whether she'd want to or not is another matter. She has a great attitude. That rubs off on other members- you can't help but feel better about the site and about yourself after interacting with someone like her. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Your comment is about as pleasant a way to start the day as I can think of with both of us still full clothed. Thanks! I'd like to see her back here too. Whether she'd want to or not is another matter. She has a great attitude. That rubs off on other members- you can't help but feel better about the site and about yourself after interacting with someone like her. Thank you so much. After the horror of the past weekend seeing this lovely post/msg from you made me SMILE  so big. Many thanks. I am hoping we can convince Nice to return but it is her choice, All we can do is let her know she is missed. Every member we lose is another light turned off and this place is a little sadder, darker and colder because of the loss,Happy Tues , Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Kzoopair, Thank you so much. After the horror of the past weekend seeing this lovely post/msg from you made me SMILE so big. Many thanks. I am hoping we can convince Nice to return but it is her choice, All we can do is let her know she is missed. Every member we lose is another light turned off and this place is a little sadder, darker and colder because of the loss,Happy Tues , Ana6 Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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You and I had never talked or had any interaction before your first two comments. But I was curious- I thought I remembered seeing your username on the site support blog so I took a look and sure enough, there you are on the site support friends list! I was initially inclined to take your remarks at face value, and I still am. I'm sure this is, as you said, an issue you're passionate about personally. But that "Petition" post remained posted for a good month and it appears to have taken off-site events to get it removed, after months of harassment and badgering of the transgendered member in addition to the Petition. So I suppose you'll forgive me for needing a grain of salt to go along with the kind remarks, now that I know a bit more about your site activities and affiliations. The wheels of justice appear to grind quite slowly here. You are right Sir, we've never spoken before. I noticed your blog posting about the petitions and saw Rich's too ( mis typed and called him Rick before ) then I saw how a lot of members posting had been blocked and would not know the petition was removed. I just thought you all had a right to know. No ulterior motive on my part, just trying to do the right thing. I mentioned when Buni asked me about this on Rich's blog, that our Dad had a stoke and I am busy dealing with the aftermath. When I saw the petition was there, then not removed I contacted someone and asked this situation be looked into. I just thought your blog and the members who post to it would like to know what happened since the blocking would keep you from noticing its removal. Sorry if any of this caused any confusion. Have a Great day , Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Dear Kzoopair, You are right Sir, we've never spoken before. I noticed your blog posting about the petitions and saw Rich's too ( mis typed and called him Rick before ) then I saw how a lot of members posting had been blocked and would not know the petition was removed. I just thought you all had a right to know. No ulterior motive on my part, just trying to do the right thing. I mentioned when Buni asked me about this on Rich's blog, that our Dad had a stoke and I am busy dealing with the aftermath. When I saw the petition was there, then not removed I contacted someone and asked this situation be looked into. I just thought your blog and the members who post to it would like to know what happened since the blocking would keep you from noticing its removal. Sorry if any of this caused any confusion. Have a Great day , Ana6 But you aren't the only member of the site support team. Were you the only member who felt strongly about this issue? When you are off attending to personal priorities does the whole team go with you? I'd think that the site's business would go on as usual during your absence. I'm thinking that maybe I grossly underestimated your importance to the site support team. They ignored this problem assiduously for months, and managed to ignore the Petition for a month in spite of complaints about it. I reckon rather than being confused, I'm merely impressed that one site support member does all the heavy lifting. Maybe you can fill me in a bit about how all that works. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I don't think there's any confusion, on your part or mine. I'm sorry to hear that your dad had medical issues. You were certainly correct in making that a top priority. But you aren't the only member of the site support team. Were you the only member who felt strongly about this issue? When you are off attending to personal priorities does the whole team go with you? I'd think that the site's business would go on as usual during your absence. I'm thinking that maybe I grossly underestimated your importance to the site support team. They ignored this problem assiduously for months, and managed to ignore the Petition for a month in spite of complaints about it. I reckon rather than being confused, I'm merely impressed that one site support member does all the heavy lifting. Maybe you can fill me in a bit about how all that works. Happy weekend Thank for taking the time to explain . I really appreciate it. Thank you also for your kind words over Dad. I am not a paid employee of the site. I am friends with the Owner/Creator of the site and I know a lot of the staff and have worked on behalf of members for yrs here. For the last 6 yrs I have been working to stabilize the company and bring the Owner back to "right the ship" so to speak. I am a Volunteer/Intern in a way. If a member has an issue or a site glitch strikes, I go find the right employee to handle it all and fix things.I agree with you that it took way to long to have the petition removed. I think with everything going on and site glitches the site had its eye on fixing things. I went to an employee I have known since 2002 and they cleared up the issue . I asked about Nice and was told to have her call into to CS if she'd like to come back. ( I stressed it was me hoping a member who is missed would come back ) Thanks to you and other caring members I was able to report the petition and exactly how many members felt it was wrong , upsetting and needed to be removed asap. When members stand up and defend other members being targeted that is when this site can be proud of itself. I will make sure the owner knows what happened and how upsetting it truly was . We must stand and defend the TOU and never ignore or drop the ball when it comes to bullying or harassment or the members here. After all, the site exists because of its members. We can not afford to lose anymore good members. Happy Weekend, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Hello DamnedVixen, Thank you for sharing your opinion & thoughts with Me. I spoke with an employee about Nice and what I saw, what the blogs defending Nice saw and how we'd like to have her come back but as we both said, it is her choice. After seeing that petition and the remarks I saw on some blogs, I can understand her not wanting to put herself through that. It is our loss not hers. I can promise you since the incident and petition was seen, the lights are ON and no more of that kind of bullying will be tolerated by anyone , male or female. If Nice chooses to consider coming back I for one would be very glad to see her and her blog back where it belongs. When this site was created in the 90's...It truly was FB before FB ever existed. The Abuse dept takes this kind of thing very seriously. ( as do I ) I have been in our chat rooms here and seen flagrant violations of the TOU and yes, reported them. I'd like to think those members who engaged in this evil kind of harassment would think twice if Nice returned and anything untowards that they would say or type would be seen by the abuse dept straight away. Then they would be the ones deleted or blocked. Evil only wins if the good guys do nothing to stop it. I do not tolerate this kind of BS/Bullying in any aspect of my life and I would be very happy to see those members who engage in such juvenile behavior be removed from the site. Happy weekend, Ana6 I done made the devil a deal He made me pretty He made me smart
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Missing Nice too and hoping for her to come back one day. I tried to reason with S with the result that she deleted my post and barred me from accessing her blog ... I have seen since that S is now boasting that she received VIP status (probably in recognition of the crusade). Ah well, I really want to forget about the whole business, but how can you if everything ends up the wrong way round ... 
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Missing Nice too and hoping for her to come back one day. I tried to reason with S with the result that she deleted my post and barred me from accessing her blog ... I have seen since that S is now boasting that she received VIP status (probably in recognition of the crusade). Ah well, I really want to forget about the whole business, but how can you if everything ends up the wrong way round ... Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I am blissful in my ignorance. I have enjoyed the gay and transgender bloggers on here as much as the straight, so I am definitely not going to endorse anything that negatively affects them. Peace and Love.
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I am blissful in my ignorance. I have enjoyed the gay and transgender bloggers on here as much as the straight, so I am definitely not going to endorse anything that negatively affects them. Peace and Love. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Well I looked at this from a very much less political angle. I looked at it also from a less "I want to be top blogger" angle. I have personally messaged with, and gone to meet a "female" member, only to find out that in fact it was not a female. Whether they personally identified as female is not the question to me...it is: am I going to see them as a female or not? They presented themselves as one?! I am all for being who you want to be, and this is a sex site so I would guess that people are looking for sex....presumably from who they want. I say be who you want, but please do not try and deceive others to try and get your goal. If you do, you can expect nothing less than some push-back. People will be upset if you try and deceive them.....and you know if you're doing it. A person who identifies as a female, but has a penis, must know that another person who is looking for a "female", PROBABLY is looking for a person with a vagina. Again, I am posting this not in response to some blog that should be read more than another, but to people who put up a profile and portray themselves in a certain way in order to MEET others. That is how I took the whole "Petition.." thing. The person is question who insists on posting petitions KNOWS that the person that they are directing this at has it specifically written into their profile that they were born with a penis but identifies as female. How do I know that the former top blogger was directing this at one person? Because despite it being against TOU (the rules of engagement if you will, here on AF*F*) she has named this other person on numerous occasions, they have verbally sparred with each other on other people's blog comment's section, and continued to until both were thrown off. The aggressor in this case was let back onto the site, while the victim has not been allowed back on. This strikes me as wrong and I will continue to speak out against this. Respectfully, Kk The observant make the best lovers, I may not do right, but I do write, I have bliss, joy, and happiness in my life, Kitkat Come check out my blog KItkat1415 check out this post by me Adventures In Body Grooming #39 April Topic Link: What Lies Beneath If April Showers Oh Bloody Hell What Kind Of Weather Turns Me On Bloggers Symposium 40
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Even if she was attractive (I gotta say a big ol nope on this one)...her actions make her hideous. I wouldn't spend time in her presence if I was paid to. Just sayin... Smooches!
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That does appear to be her mindset- that everyone thinks like her, or is weak and stupid. You must be either manipulative and self absorbed or dumb- there isn't any in between, and she can't acknowledge that any of us are simply disgusted by her behavior. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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I don't know or care about the pettiness going on between the two in question, but an interesting question does pose itself here. IF the transsexual wants to be truly honest doesn't Older Hookups allow a person to identify as an transexual rather than as a maie or female? If not, Older Hookups should consider it. I, for one, am fed up with all of the guys posing as couples or women just to connect up. We're supposed to be all adults here so let's start acting like it.
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I don't know or care about the pettiness going on between the two in question, but an interesting question does pose itself here. IF the transsexual wants to be truly honest doesn't Older Hookups allow a person to identify as an transexual rather than as a maie or female? If not, Older Hookups should consider it. I, for one, am fed up with all of the guys posing as couples or women just to connect up. We're supposed to be all adults here so let's start acting like it. As to "truly honest" I guess you'll have to define that for yourself. The transgendered blogger identifies as female so she chose that option. She also explained that she was transgendered, male to female. It was honest enough for me. I won't engage you in a debate about how people should identify as to gender or preference. There's room to disagree. But the spectrum of our sexuality in fact resides between the two poles of heterosexual male and female. It isn't the poles that are in question here. It's that broad expanse in between that is, and it is truly broad with every kind of nuance and permutation. In some ways gender is finally being recognized as not so cut and dried, black and white as we used to believe. The ones who are different are at last being acknowledged. The people mentioned here have been acting like adults. I'm sure you've noticed that very often adults behave abominably. In this case one adult certainly was behaving badly, and all to try to regain her forever lost position as "Top Blogger". As I said in my post, it was shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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6/28/2016 9:21 pm |
I don't reply on many blogs... so sorry if I ramble. I don't even READ blogs normally, but a month or so ago I went to browse around and see if there were any active groups in Georgia related to trans or CD people. From there, on the community tab I saw the "Petition" related to this blogger as a hot topic, and that obviously caught my eye. I followed that thread and this one. I'm really glad this thread was here. I made a reply over on the other side and the poster wasn't exactly rude to me, but I really didn't end up feeling heard, and it was made very clear that person in question doesn't see me as even capable of being anything more than a man in a dress. I suppose its fair enough to see me that way, it's just not fair to harass another person for not agreeing with that view. The blogger who now appears to have self-exiled spoke of herself on her profile as female. She did that because your profile is supposed to be about who you are in your own words. If you ask her both to be honest (if this is a campaign about dishonesty) and to talk about herself. Her truthful answer is she sees herself as female, and she's telling the truth in describing herself as that. She went even beyond that to talk about how she was born, so there was nothing hidden. I leave my profile in the TS/TV/CD world because it slightly lowers the chance of myself getting harassed. If anything, I feel cowardly about that, not truthful, but it's something of a reality. I worry about everyone who wants to meet with me: "Will they feel the same way afterwards?", "Am I a fetish they're ashamed of?", "What happens if they worry I'll tell someone we were together?" and it's easy to conjure up scary mental images. The thread on that other blogger's petition really devolved extremely quickly into a lashing out against trans people in general, and being honest again, it's rough to see people hating the idea of you just existing. I can understand why nicelipps felt some pressure to just have that hatred directed at literally anything else. I brought all that up to say that it was surprisingly meaningful to find people here speaking to the other side. I would never ask that everyone has to understand trans people, it's a new thing for a lot of people and I get that, but just having a number of people who allow the thought that I'm still acceptable as a human being carries meaning. So thanks to all of you for that. It goes without saying that trans people are as varied as any other gender, so I can't and don't intend to speak as some sort of group spokeperson, but to me, as an individual person, I really appreciated everyone who spoke up against this petition, particularly those without a direct interest from being in the trans camp.  ~Sarah~
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I don't reply on many blogs... so sorry if I ramble. I don't even READ blogs normally, but a month or so ago I went to browse around and see if there were any active groups in Georgia related to trans or CD people. From there, on the community tab I saw the "Petition" related to this blogger as a hot topic, and that obviously caught my eye. I followed that thread and this one. I'm really glad this thread was here. I made a reply over on the other side and the poster wasn't exactly rude to me, but I really didn't end up feeling heard, and it was made very clear that person in question doesn't see me as even capable of being anything more than a man in a dress. I suppose its fair enough to see me that way, it's just not fair to harass another person for not agreeing with that view. The blogger who now appears to have self-exiled spoke of herself on her profile as female. She did that because your profile is supposed to be about who you are in your own words. If you ask her both to be honest (if this is a campaign about dishonesty) and to talk about herself. Her truthful answer is she sees herself as female, and she's telling the truth in describing herself as that. She went even beyond that to talk about how she was born, so there was nothing hidden. I leave my profile in the TS/TV/CD world because it slightly lowers the chance of myself getting harassed. If anything, I feel cowardly about that, not truthful, but it's something of a reality. I worry about everyone who wants to meet with me: "Will they feel the same way afterwards?", "Am I a fetish they're ashamed of?", "What happens if they worry I'll tell someone we were together?" and it's easy to conjure up scary mental images. The thread on that other blogger's petition really devolved extremely quickly into a lashing out against trans people in general, and being honest again, it's rough to see people hating the idea of you just existing. I can understand why nicelipps felt some pressure to just have that hatred directed at literally anything else. I brought all that up to say that it was surprisingly meaningful to find people here speaking to the other side. I would never ask that everyone has to understand trans people, it's a new thing for a lot of people and I get that, but just having a number of people who allow the thought that I'm still acceptable as a human being carries meaning. So thanks to all of you for that. It goes without saying that trans people are as varied as any other gender, so I can't and don't intend to speak as some sort of group spokeperson, but to me, as an individual person, I really appreciated everyone who spoke up against this petition, particularly those without a direct interest from being in the trans camp. I was pleased to see so many people speak up for Nicelipss too. I didn't expect to get such a long thread of comments on such a post. But it makes you feel better about people, doesn't it? Lots of members, nearly all bloggers here, thought what was happening was cruel and entirely self serving, and they stood up and said so in public. We're better here if we hang together and stand up for each other. We're all different, and we're all very much alike. Thanks for your comment. You're more than acceptable, Sarah. The rest of us are much better for your presence here. You aren't simply welcome here- you enrich us. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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7/6/2016 11:30 pm |
i m old, so some times things get by me.. and i m not sure this is the person that i m thinking of.. but , then again , if the shoe fits... while i agree this is so fucked up .. and i have raised this issue with this woman that i was blogging with and was on my watch list.. and like i said i don t know if its the same person we are talking about.. i have to think that she is also obsessed with being top woman blogger. i again don t know if we are talking about the same woman, but the one i m thinking of was crazy about the fact that "HE" was allowed to blog under a womans blog? i just say that as it goes to the mind of person.. to be so crazy about what people think of there body as to put on blog after blog of tell me what you think of my tits and ass.. the need for adoration of oneself , the need to be top blogger and having a dick take that away from you and not being able to handle that. telling her bloggers that her hubby was gay. crazy. face piles of trials with smiles.. MOODY BLUES please feel free to visit my blog happy blogging
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i m old, so some times things get by me.. and i m not sure this is the person that i m thinking of.. but , then again , if the shoe fits... while i agree this is so fucked up .. and i have raised this issue with this woman that i was blogging with and was on my watch list.. and like i said i don t know if its the same person we are talking about.. i have to think that she is also obsessed with being top woman blogger. i again don t know if we are talking about the same woman, but the one i m thinking of was crazy about the fact that "HE" was allowed to blog under a womans blog? i just say that as it goes to the mind of person.. to be so crazy about what people think of there body as to put on blog after blog of tell me what you think of my tits and ass.. the need for adoration of oneself , the need to be top blogger and having a dick take that away from you and not being able to handle that. telling her bloggers that her hubby was gay. crazy. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger. This blog is written for entertainment purposes only. Mostly mine, but I hope you enjoy it too.
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The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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He certainly does, Missy. And maybe he knows that. This is all about maneuvering for position, isn't it? The trolls and minions come out and continue the trash talking even after they succeeded in driving away a decent woman. Her name isn't going away though. Nicelipss didn't lie about a damned thing. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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