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The Thrill Is Gone  

MissAnnThrope 63F
7711 posts
6/11/2008 11:42 pm

Last Read:
7/11/2009 5:33 pm

The Thrill Is Gone


That about sums it up, as far as where I've been.

A few things brought me to this point. The first being the quality of men I hear from in this neck of the woods. Good "Christians" have to write to me to tell me I'll burn in Hell for being a Pagan. Most of them are married. Rednecks who feel women are supposed to serve man on her knees. Guys, "To Serve Man" is an alien cookbook. Have you never watched "The Twilight Zone"?

Then there's the Republican factor. Not just Republicans, but the entire Neo-Con trip. This state is fucked up in that regard. Our Governor, Brad Henry, tried to veto a bill that would force victims of and who want an abortion to have an ultrasound within two hours of the procedure. The most accurate form of ultrasound. Which involves shoving a camera up the poor victims' twats to get a good look at the uterus and the forming embryo or fetus inside. Let's these girls twice! He tried to veto the bill. The State House overturned the veto. So, until some smart lawyer gets a case over unnecessary medical procedures, well, let's them twice.

And in this state, a full 29% of are of the uous variety. No wonder so many people look alike.

But then, back to the religion factor. The House and Senate of Oklahoma have passed a new bill. To allow all forms of religious expression in the classroom. Sally Kern, Baptist from Hell who has called any religion other than her own "insignificant" introduced the bill that was written by a Texas think tank.

Thankfully, last week Brad Henry vetoed it, saying the language was vague. House Bill 2633, the "Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Act," had some interesting wording that meant that any could have written on any school paper that "God did it," or, "The Flying Spaghetti Monster did it last Thursday while drunk," and the teachers would not have been able to mark the question as wrong.

I'm not joking. The bill stated students would be able to, "express their beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions."

The religious right in the state isn't happy about this. But you know what? It would have been shooting themselves in the foot. Think the Born Again would have owned the schools had this become law? Nope. The Discordian would have owned the school in a week. Their own brand of chaos would have been protected as religious expression.

Then there's the fact that any Pagan who wanted to could have brought his or her altar in for show and tell and well, how many Pagans are born Pagan? Most are those who find Christianity lacking, but didn't know they really had other options. So how many fundie are now missing out on a major religious conversion? The religious right should be happy, instead of saying it's trampling their rights. in the Oklahoma public schools are offered voluntary prayer in the schools.

But yeah. This state is nuts. I've been told I'm "limiting" myself by refusing to date Republicans. You know, moderate Republicans are ok. But the Neo-Cons have taken over the party. They're the insane ones. I've dated a Neo-Con. I believe I've mentioned him in the past. I refer to him now if he comes up as Poseur McGoth. It finally turned out he thought he was a Sith Lord living in Middle Earth. Who honestly believed that Michael Savage book title about Liberalism being a mental disease. Um, who has the mental disease?

Then there are the other righties in my life. One I've known for years now. We started chatting the one night and we've been chatting ever since. He calls himself a full-out fascist. He wants me to become his blood sister, (some reenactment ritual where the wrist is cut, blood is mingled in a bowl and black powder is packed into the cut,) but at the same time tells me that if he ever goes through with his plans for world domination, I get to die with all the other Liberals. Gee, thanks! But I'm one of his best friends.

Then there's the other one. Who will make these grand gestures to hunt me down. Then disappear for months on end. Who will literally beg for sex while trying to convert me back to Roman Catholic and try to show me how the Neo-Cons are right and how I should mend my Liberal ways. He also has borderline personality disorder. I wonder if it's a coincidence that he and Poseur McGoth are from the same town?

So yeah, I'm sorry, Republicans and any stripe of religious fundamentalists are out. Which leaves about 5% of the state.

But being able to relate to anyone... It's rough. About 20 years ago I read something that said Midwesterners make great East Coasters but East Coasters make lousy Midwesterners. I thought that was a nasty thing to say. But you know what? That author was right. The values are different. The mindset is different. Even those who think of themselves as witty and urbane down here would rather die than watch a movie with subtitles. So don't even mention that fountain scene from "La Dolce Vita." No one will know what you're talking about. Fellini? That's one of them fancy Italian sports cars, ain't it?

Then there's the fact that if I hear one more person refer to New York as "Jew York", I'm going to get myself a gun. An assault rifle. Need I say more? They don't think any more highly of Catholics than they do Jews. All I have to do to scare someone off is mention that I was raised Roman Catholic and my paternal grandmother's family was originally Jewish.

I've had people tell me that they're Catholic in a hushed tone, followed by a cringe. They relax when I tell them I was raised Catholic. The fundamentalists really HATE Catholics and believe everything in those fucking Jack Chick tracts. I keep being told that Catholics are NOT Christians.

Mind you, they're all for the state of Israel and they'd prefer it if every Jew in the country moved there and left this a "Christian" country. They want to protect Israel for one reason and one reason only... It figures into the Rapture. Which was made up in the 1820s. I've started calling those who believe in the Rapture and who are Born Again "New Age Christians" because it's such a modern movement. They throw fits. But I can't help myself.

Next, well, everyone really does seem to look alike in their category. You can tell the good ole boys apart by their cowboy hats or baseball caps. Otherwise, they all look alike. Then there are the aging Ken dolls. You know, Ken isn't aging well at all. No wonder Mattel introduced a new boyfriend for Barbie.

Then there are the ones who look like wannabe televangelists. The greased hair, done in the typical evangelical hair style. Then there are the meth heads, who ALL start to look alike and about 20 to 30 years older than they really are, thanks to the drug abuse. Know how all heroin addicts with dark hair start to look like Keith Richards after years of abuse? No different with meth heads. But they all end up looking like well, the Hollywood stereotype of trailer trash.

Then, try to have a conversation with any of them. It's like they're talking in some weird language. I'm not "opening up" to them. Um, I'm telling you everything about me that I think might be relevant. But it would seem I'm not "opening up." When I ask what that means, the answer is, "just open up to me." WTF? Would someone PLEASE tell me what that means? Is it code for they want me to talk dirty while they jerk off to words on a screen? Am I supposed to have some sort of religious conversion and start worshiping at their feet? What does that mean?

But alas, I am rambling at this point. And I haven't even touched on the menopause factor yet. That is playing a major role too. But I shall save that for next time.

AmericanBaronin 59F   
12250 posts
6/12/2008 12:53 am

Give Lofty a pack of marshmallow peeps; your choice where to put them.


punkybrewster3 58M
236 posts
6/12/2008 1:46 am

Wow Ann

From NYC, NJ, to where ever the hell you're at now... I heard things about the stuff you wrote about on MSNBC.

I thought it was just an old horror movie... It's like a time warp or something... Did they remember to abolish slavery yet...lol

I heard that's where all the "unfriendly" skinheads go....

East Coast misses you Ann... Lambsy says "Hi"... Don't be a stranger...


firegryphon 54F
5903 posts
6/12/2008 3:34 am

I have nothing relevant to say, I just wanted to leave a comment so you know I was here cuz I give a shit.

The only thing I HAVE to do is eat, shit, and die. Everything else is a choice.


redmustang91 64M
9760 posts
6/12/2008 5:19 am

As a secular humanist, I am distressed that the ideas of Jesus are perverted by such intolerance and stupidity. If God created man, and God was perfect and omniscient, you would think He could have done a better job...


Ana_6973 50F

6/12/2008 10:09 am

Ya know, I simply never think of Oklahoma as the midwest. I realize it is but I kinda have always lumped it with Texas and I think anyone who lives in Texas voluntarily is by virtue insane.

I grew up in Iowa and I think you'd fit in just fine there. You'd probably like Iowa City best since it is a college town. But even growing up in Cedar Rapids, which can be fairly conservative, we got a lot of freedoms. And after living in Nevada, the land of the hypocrite, now for almost ten years, I realize how good some of what we had was.

Later!
{=}

~~"I can scream as loud as your last one, but I can't claim innocence."~~


popmuse01 42F

6/12/2008 1:56 pm

I don't have much relevant to say either, other than: That sucks!

I'm leaving the site end of March. To those who want to keep in touch, see blog for details.


rm_angelsquared 64M/64F
52 posts
6/13/2008 7:43 am

~~~~Laughing at the "minimal paperwork" line from JNB

Before we found each other we were open to dating people from right of center. Independently, we came to the conclusion that we just. could. not. stomach. the stupid. drivel. Especially when those from the right who we met could not define in any concrete way WHY they were Repugs except to vilify the left mainly out of fear of being branded or identified as from THE OTHER side. (Simone de Beauvoir is probably as popular as films with subtitles in OK, huh?)

Today we are astonished at the things that strangers with "Jesus Saves" t-shirts say to our faces, out loud, as if we concurred. It's 2000 freaking 8 halfway to 2009 and some people seem to be barely walking mentally erect. Ignoranuses. (brief aside - one of us uses your phrase "cuntscab" when he thinks his head will explode from listening to the sort of OK crap you write about. Thank you for that!)

It is OK to call out a Christian for being un-Christlike. It is OK to call racist fascist assholes out for spewing out un-American crap.

Hang in there. It'll be OK.

A 2


jetCooledBiscuit 56M

6/13/2008 2:29 pm

Wow. Was that a manifesto or just a diatribe?


rm_regnglad 41M
3012 posts
6/13/2008 2:33 pm

Just wanted to give my support...
Boy am I glad I live in a country where must church-goers are extremely elderly...


NickRules999 46M
9458 posts
6/13/2008 9:29 pm

Utah isn't much better. But you already knew that, I'm betting.

Come into my realm! You aren't afraid...are you?


rdy2try4 59F  
3330 posts
6/14/2008 7:08 am

LOL Do you remember way back when...when I was emailed and told I was a Conservative Muslim terroristtt?? lol I just sat back and smiled at all of what you wrote. I SOOOOO do need to get with you and talk. I miss our conversations and listening to your quick wit in these situations. I know I am not a guy and am not gonna screw you.. lol or even offer to!! But I do love and adore you MissAnn. I know the frustrations and can totally relate and I hope to hear from you soon!!

I agree with KOFLA!!!


AtomicArtist0 52M
6014 posts
6/14/2008 8:21 am

Move to a blue state ASAP! You're going insane out there. Heh...Sith Lord from Millde Earth...one of those, eh?


bluenfree 67M
2475 posts
6/15/2008 7:47 am

Miss Ann, I cringed when I heard where you were moving. Both my parents were born and grew up in OK, I have a lot of cousins there, and I went to college there for 3 semesters until I wised up.

If you're going to stay there, move to Norman. It's the closest thing to a liberal, educated place to live. Sort of a conservative version of Ames, IA, or Austin, TX. Of course, that still puts it somewhat to the right of the average Neo-Nazi for Christ, but beats the hell out of Tulsa.

But look on the bright side. It coulda been worse. You could have moved to South Carolina, or Zimbabwe, or Iraq ...

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. - Winston Churchill


haversack_smith 47M
6189 posts
6/15/2008 10:59 am

I've nothing against relgion. But some religious people are nuttier than a Dundee Cake.

Actually, I'm doing religion a disservice there. I tend to believe that these people would be nutty even if there were no religion. It's just that religion gives them something to be nutty about. It's the old tribal instincts breaking through - the need for prescription, certainty, the Way Things Are. These things usually lead to a rigid belief structure. Hey, you know what happens with something rigid (e.g. a glass) when something strikes it? It shatters. So it's important to keep it wrapped up in cotton wool and either run from or BURN anything that might damage it.

So sorry you've ended up in a place with so few likeminded people to meet.


nm_bob 65M

7/6/2008 2:23 pm

Love the post, love the opinions. Yup, the FSM made me do it, with his noodly appendage! As ABQlady2 said, we are just next door and overall a lot more rationale, and would welcome you.


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